軍武

>>1005896
想問問書名是啥?

認真找了一下沒看到這出自哪本書
就是皇民FB在貼這個

>>1005904
"太平洋戰爭"偷換概念到"大陸戰場"哦

>>1005904
>目的是為了保衛東亞和平
寫這些東西的是不覺得大東亞共榮的繼承者有一天會將此加諸已身嗎
也是 有那天早出國了
反攻大陸的也不會想到今天。

This?

https://www.americanrhetoric.com/speeches/douglasmacarthurfarewelladdress.htm

General Douglas MacArthur

Farewell Address to Congress

Delivered 19 April 1951

現在用"文創歷史"來造假騙人的廢物太多了

和艦長控一樣想知道該書作者是誰+1

麥帥若天上有知自己竟被三腳仔拿來胡謅為日帝辨白的話，大概晚上會找作者來聊聊天吧😁😁😁

斷章取義...

要就把上下文看完ww

There is practically nothing indigenous to Japan except the silkworm. They lack cotton, they lack wool, they lack petroleum products, they lack tin, they lack rubber, they lack great many other things, all of which was in the Asiatic basin. They feared that if those supplies were cut off, there would be 10 to 12 million people unoccupied in Japan. Their purpose, therefore in going to war was largely dictated by security.

截這段來替日本侵略辯解

整段原文是麥克阿瑟對封鎖中國的策略解說
結果變成麥克阿瑟認同日本人做法?

太長不給發文
只好分段發文

Strategy against Japan in World War II

Senator Hicknlooper. Question No.5: Isn't your proposal for sea and air blockade of Red China the same strategy by which Americans achieved victory over the Japanese in the Pacific?

General MacArthur. Yes, sir. In the Pacific we by-passed them. We closed in. You must understand that Japan had an enormous population of nearly 80 million people, crowded into 4 islands. It was about half a farm population. The other half was engaged in industry.
Potentially the labor pool in Japan, both in quantity and quality, is as good as anything that I have ever known. Some place down the line they have discovered what you might call the dignity of labor, that men are happier when they are working and constructing than when they are idling.
This enormous capacity for work meant that they had to have something to work on. They built the factories, they had the labor, but they didn't have the basic materials.

[There is practically nothing indigenous to Japan except the silk worm. They lack cotton, they lack wool, they lack petroleum products, they lack tin, they lack rubber, they lack a great many other things, all of which was in the Asiatic basin.
They feared that if those supplies were cut off, there would be 10 to 12 million people unoccupied in Japan. Their purpose, therefore, in going to war was largely dictated by security.]

The raw materials -- those countries which furnished raw materials for their manufacture -- such countries as Malaya, Indonesia, the Philippines, and so on -- they, with the advantage of preparedness and surprise, seized all those bases, and their general strategic concept was to hold those outlying bastions, the islands of the Pacific, so that we would bleed ourselves white in trying to reconquer them, and that the losses would be so tremendous that we would ultimately acquiesce in a treaty which would allow them to control the basic products of the places they had captured.
In meeting that, we evolved an entirely new strategy. They held certain bastion points, and what we did was to evade those points, and go around them.
We came in behind them, and we crept up and crept up, and crept up, always approaching the lanes of communication which led from those countries, conquered countries, to Japan.

來源可能是從這裡出現的www
真不知道敢不敢全段解說
截一段說一段講得煞有其事

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZOTfQCjDO8w&feature=youtu.be

>>1005930
補充:從第16分鐘看起
就知道它們在說甚麼鬼話了

>>1005903

This:

https://ameblo.jp/scopedog/entry-10023353939.html

2007-01-12 23:05:15

マッカーサーは日本は自衛のために戦った、と言ったのか？

テーマ：歴史考察

中共的陰毛都還沒長出來前日本就已經有這野心佔下韓國跟進入中國了吧.....
這作者掰得一副老共已經存在了兩三百年一樣

>>1005941
所以說這是哪本書? 有扯到老共?

>>1005926

https://www.senate.gov/artandhistory/history/common/generic/Featured_Bio_HickenlooperBourke.htm

Bourke Hickenlooper: A Featured Biography

Bourke Hickenlooper, known to his constituents as “Hick,” represented Iowa in the U.S. Senate from 1945 to 1969.
During his 24 years of Senate service, Hickenlooper chaired the Republican Policy Committee and the Joint Committee on Atomic Energy, and served as ranking member on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee.
An ardent anti-Communist, Hickenlooper opposed the censure of Senator Joseph McCarthy and sided with General Douglas MacArthur in his feud with President Truman.

這本書和那影片的老頭能抓著麥帥說的一個"security"單字掰成麥帥說日本是為了自我防衛的正當戰爭也太超譯了……
國際關係軍事戰略上的security是個中性名詞，不牽扯到價值判斷，所以為了自己安全去把其他國家都佔領也是出自對security的追求，但這他馬的和正不正當根本兩回事好嗎！

我猜大概是台灣民政府或是喜樂島之類獨派組織的出版物，
重點在於替日本帝國辯護、合理化他們的侵略行為...

這年頭文創歷史正夯

>>1006102
>>我猜大概是台灣民政府或是喜樂島之類獨派組織的出版物，
>>重點在於替日本帝國辯護、合理化他們的侵略行為...
那票傢伙都能出"麥克阿瑟向日本投降"這種書了,稍微翻過根本就是幻想與自作多情的等級,

就知道那票傢伙的文創歷史與舊日本帝國遺民的心態了

>>1006102
80年代以前這種書更多
最扯還看過有人把正史放進希特勒性器官的(就算是事實，這與歷史根本就無關吧？你在寫史書耶？)
或著是史書用章回小說的文筆寫

所以以前才那麼推星光麥田，因為以前的雷不比現在少
今日其實還是可以去比較老藏書比較多的公家圖書館去體驗一下
那種書也還沒丟

>>1005992
圖裏面寫的很清楚啊
經歷朝鮮戰爭的麥克阿瑟看到蘇聯及中共的惡行與威脅
才終於明白日本明治以來進出大陸是爲了保衛東亞和平

PS：大東亞共榮圈這個1940年才提出來的口號
在這些歷史發明家嘴裏成了一貫政策

>>1006337
聯合東亞對抗歐美俄白人的帝國主義, 那是明治維新開始就有的思潮不假
至少到民國建立後都還有試圖拉攏中國, 然後就是軍方奪權, 整個日本變暴走機關車
大東亞共榮圈只是拿本來就有的主張來合理化發動戰爭

戰後右派還在講這一套, 60年代的<大東亞戰爭肯定論>最後還直指共匪就是大東亞共榮圈的後繼者
(吞併東亞, 黃種人帝國對抗歐美俄白人的帝國的意味)

讓那種跟現今北韓沒兩樣的國家來統治....現代日本根本是二戰後被GHQ幕府洗過一遍才形成的

>>1006438
比獨裁/寡頭國家糟多了
獨裁/寡頭國家沒足夠的利益/風險太高會放棄開戰/考慮談和
日帝是不夠激進的會被天誅, 包括天皇本人
從上到下都是精神論, 前線獨斷, 打了再收尾(或者根本就沒想過)