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卡彈的山貓無名20/05/26(二)10:19:50 ID:7eKS6oAkNo.1072722del
最近yt演算法又推給我MGS3山貓耍槍的片段了
軍武盲想請問島民
為什麼蛇叔說第一發子彈手動上彈會造成卡彈?
是什麼原理?
無名20/05/26(二)10:47:47 ID:TWfgDEFUNo.1072725del
>>1072722
在與醫官的無線電中,蛇會提到山貓用的方式是換彈時不論槍膛內有無子彈都拉滑套,這麼做能確保不會發生換子彈後卻忘記上膛的狀況

這個做法本身沒問題,但是山貓他只是聽人說過這種做法,沒實際太多練習,結果在實作時出了錯
至於他犯錯的地方大概是拉滑套時手擋住了排殼孔,使得彈殼沒完全排出去,然後滑套復進時就把彈殼卡住了

雖然考慮到山貓的實際身分,他可能是裝出來的...
無名20/05/26(二)11:12:38 ID:xFkwUS3QNo.1072726del
>>1072722
那關於他使用左輪上,現實真的能照他這樣做法射擊嗎?
無名20/05/26(二)16:11:28 ID:FMzA2EyoNo.1072742del
>>1072725
沒玩過這遊戲,但是這個動作正常來說不是要用目視確認膛內有無異狀嗎?
ガメラ @ 札幌派 + 全国制覇20/05/26(二)19:17:50 ID:W0zkObIsNo.1072765del
(?_?)

https://metalgear.fandom.com/wiki/Revolver_Ocelot

However, his arrogant use of a Middle Eastern technique that involved ejecting the first bullet by hand, caused his Makarov handgun to jam, resulting in Ocelot and his entire unit being defeated by Snake's superior close-quarters combat skills.
At gunpoint, a winded Ocelot was advised to use revolvers by an impressed Snake, who had earlier noticed his tendency to twist his elbow to absorb recoil, before passing out.
無名20/05/26(二)19:31:52 ID:ObgEy376No.1072768del
>>1072726
請問他的左輪是怎樣使用的??
無名20/05/26(二)20:16:51 ID:EnTojR8QNo.1072774del
>>1072768
打小蜜蜂(認真)
無名20/05/26(二)21:03:17 ID:EH9t/zUINo.1072775del
>>1072742
卡的是未擊發的子彈

就是換完彈夾後 把未擊發的子彈拉滑套退出 結果卡住來不及排除就被老蛇教訓了

話說山貓把卡彈的子彈當紀念留了下來
後來塞在SAA上<-這可以麼?口徑不對吧?
無名20/05/26(二)21:51:03 ID:68WXng8ENo.1072780del
>>1072742
一般手槍的設計
應該是槍膛內無子彈 (裝上)彈匣內無子彈
然後滑套拉到底 會固定在打開槍膛的狀態吧?
這點跟步槍不太一樣
步槍是要用拉柄將槍機拉到後方固定
(糟糕 我已經忘記65K2怎麼清槍了...退伍1X年的關係?
無名20/05/26(二)21:58:12 ID:68WXng8ENo.1072781del
>>1072775
他那個時後拿的是PMM
使用的是9x18毫米馬卡洛夫槍彈(圖右
(圖左是一般的9×19公釐帕拉貝倫彈

左輪的Colt Single Action Army
口徑是.45(約11.43mm)
所以是放的進去
不過扣動槍機打不打得到底火就....看運氣?
成功的話子彈還是會飛出去的
無名20/05/26(二)21:59:57 ID:Lv.CmqAYNo.1072782del
>>1072780
鬼島步槍子彈打完
槍機會後退在空膛的狀況之下
槍機卡榫會將槍機控制在後
只要換彈匣然後將槍機卡榫(小球拍)按下
就自動上膛完畢了
ガメラ @ 札幌派 + 全国制覇20/05/26(二)22:23:00 ID:W0zkObIsNo.1072787del
(?_?)

http://www.imfdb.org/wiki/Metal_Gear_Solid_3:_Snake_Eater

After trying what, according to Big Boss, is a Middle Eastern technique where you reflexively rack the slide to make sure there is a round in the chamber, despite it already being loaded, Ocelot causes a failure to feed jam.
With the gun failing to go into battery, Big Boss ambushes him with CQC and subdues him easily.
Big Boss tells him after that his techniques with the gun would be better suited for a revolver, which causes him to switch to the Colt Single Action Army.
無名20/05/26(二)22:34:35 ID:./oqYVjYNo.1072790del
>>1072726
你指的是彎曲手肘吸收後座力那招嗎?

以前很多老西部電影都可以看到類似動作,所以應該是有效用吧?
無名20/05/26(二)23:17:33 ID:n.5gcoqgNo.1072792del
>>1072781
Ocelot later attempted to use a revolver against Naked Snake when cornering him at the Groznyj Grad sewers, although the ammo he utilized was not actually a .45 Colt bullet: Rather, it was a 9mm bullet from Ocelot's Makarov that jammed his gun back when he lost to Snake during the Virtuous Mission that he modified with a specialized ring attachment to bypass the ammo restrictions for the revolver. However, the gun chamber had narrowly went to the wrong slide of the gun, which allowed Snake the opportunity to escape by jumping from the waterfall.


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