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烏軍對M270的使用評價無名23/02/26(日)23:37:24 ID:Lrl4U2uMNo.1172451del
https://www.facebook.com/TheBlackAxolotl/posts/148012538062404

所以M270火箭砲的精確度其實已經足以在
最小附帶損害的情況下精準擊中目標?
我原本一直以為M270打目標是直接一排火箭打出去
直接把那個面積內的東西清空

不這樣火箭的成本會不會很高啊?
無名23/02/26(日)23:50:23 ID:lUT2D1JINo.1172457del
M270發射器履帶版,海馬斯輪車單發射器版
31st of October. Ukrainians launched two HIMARS guided rocket against a hotel in Alchevsk, Luhansk region. Russian units were stationed in the hotel. Once again, HIMARS rockets demonstrated their pinpoint accuracy. The target was destroyed, but the nearby residential buildings were not damaged.

In 2014 unit price of the M142 HIMARS was around $5.1 million. This figure included the launcher vehicle and some ammunition. Each GMLRS guided rocket costs around $160 000. So a full salvo of HIMARS costs a whopping $960 000.
無名23/02/26(日)23:54:25 ID:lUT2D1JINo.1172458del
M30 guided rocket. It is also referred as Guided Multiple Launch Rocket System, Guided MLRS, or GMLRS. This weapon was developed to counter the threat of hostile long-range rocket and cannon artillery to the US forces. It was a replacement for the basic M26 and M26A2 ER artillery rockets. The M30 rocket has a range of 65-70 km and has substantially improved accuracy due to the use of built-in GPS system. It is fitted with a dual-purpose warhead with 404 bomblets. The M30 provides the same lethality as the M26 and M26A2 but fewer rockets are required to hit the target. By 2019 this rocket was no longer used by the US Military. The remaining M30 rockets were converted to M30A1 and M31A1 variants.

M30A1, M30A2 GMLRS-AW is a version of the GMLRS with a so called "alternative warhead". This is a 90 kg airburst fragmentation warhead. It explodes about 10 m above ground to disperse its 160 000 pre-formed fragments. This warhead is effective against area targets, including troops, vehicles, radars, forward command posts. Also it meets the US unexploded ordnance policy requirements. Range of fire is 65-70 km. This rocket was tested by the US Army in 2014 and was adopted shortly afterwards. Production commenced in 2015. Eventually it replaced in service the M30 guided rockets. The M30A1 could be a designation of the M30 rockets, fitted with alternative warhead.

M31 is a so called GMLRS-U or "unitary" rocket with a single 90 kg High Explosive (HE) warhead. Warhead has 23 kg of explosive content. Range of fire is 65-70 km. Some sources report that maximum range is 92 km. Production commenced in 2005. These rockets are used by the US military.

M31A1 is an improved version of the M31. This could be a designation of the M30 rocket, converted to the M31 standard. This guided rocket has a range of 65-70 km. Some sources report that maximum range is 92 km.
無名23/02/26(日)23:56:03 ID:WsyGnVd2No.1172459del
>>1172451
>$168,000 per one M31 GMLRS (FY 2023)
將近17萬美金
夠買一台四輪的輕型裝甲車了
無名23/02/27(一)00:01:11 ID:Z4V59OqkNo.1172461del
M31A2 is a further improved version. In 2019, or possibly earlier, it replaced in production the previous M31 variants. This rocket has a range of 65-70 km. Some sources report that maximum range is 92 km.
n 2022 during the war in Ukraine the M142 HIMARS was widely used against the Russian targets. It proved to be an extremely accurate and deadly system. Multiple Russian command posts, ammunition storages and concentrations of troops and armored vehicles, bridges were destroyed by these artillery rocket systems. Most of the targets were located well behind the frontlines. Ukrainians reported that there were cases when the first HIMARS GMLRS rocket would hit the building and the second rocket would go through the same hole in the building. Russian air defense systems are not effective against saturated HIMARS attacks. The guided rockets could not be intercepted by Russian air defenses, although this can not be said about the ATACMS ballistic missiles. Also the HIMARS proved to be vastly superior to comparable Russian Uragan 220 mm multiple launch rocket system. Even though the Uragan carries more rockets it has significantly shorter range and is rather inaccurate. The Uragan is effective only against area targets, but not against point targets. On the other hand the HIMARS demonstrated a pin-point accuracy with its GMLRS missiles. Deliveries of HIMARS and M270 MLRS systems to Ukraine essentially changed the course of war in Ukraine. By September 2022 a total of 16 M142 HIMARS and 9 M270 MLRS systems were delivered and these systems broke the backbone of Russia logistics.
只是英文。。。請自行加減看一下好了
無名23/02/27(一)00:02:57 ID:Z4V59OqkNo.1172462del
28th of October. Ukrainians hit a Russian base with HIMARS rockets. Multiple Russian military vehicles were destroyed. A couple of vehicles can be identified, including an R-166-0.5 signals vehicle, BMP-2, BMP, a couple of KamAZ and Ural trucks.
無名23/02/27(一)00:16:17 ID:AK1amz9kNo.1172464del
>>1172459
M30系列打擊物流中心和集結點還有運輸部隊
M31系列打擊指揮中心和橋梁之類的重要地點而且對附近建築幾乎沒有傷害
要看其戰果與威懾力,還有與同類產品作比較,很便宜啦
無名23/02/27(一)00:16:53 ID:jd06OfVgNo.1172465del
俄軍也有BM30阿
無名23/02/27(一)00:17:24 ID:0FsKj0/INo.1172466del
>>1172464
>>1172459
怪不得烏克蘭會說M270攻擊前都會跟美方請求目標訊息

錢要花在刀口上的概念....
無名23/02/27(一)00:20:34 ID:AK1amz9kNo.1172467del
>>1172465
The Tornado multiple launch rocket system may be Russia's answer to the US HIMARS. The 9A52-4 was first revealed in 2007. It is a lightweight and universal version of the Smerch MLRS. The 9A52-4 is more strategically and tactically mobile, but mobility comes at a cost of reduced firepower. This artillery rocket system is aimed both at the Russian Army and export customers. However by 2018 it received no production orders.
The 9A52-4 Tornado is fitted with a single container with six launching tubes for 300 mm rockets. It can fire all current Smerch rockets, including HE-FRAG, incendiary, fuel-air explosive, cluster with anti-personnel or anti-tank mines. Cluster rounds may also carry self-targeting anti-tank munitions. A standard rocket is 7.6 m long and weights 800 kg. Maximum range of fire is 70 km with ordinary and 90 km with extended-range rockets. Rockets are fitted with range and direction correction system for better accuracy. A full salvo of this rocket system covers area of 32 hectares.
無名23/02/27(一)11:29:55 ID:0NSxBdp2No.1172487del
以前導彈貴是因為那個高精度陀螺儀貴得要死
電子地圖地型匹配,那電腦也很貴,數字地圖也難找

現在什麼都gps,陀螺儀拿個便宜的就好
數字地圖有雷達衛星,都弄出公分級的了,搭載電腦不如手機

科技進展,什麼也便宜了
無名23/02/27(一)11:59:40 ID:YoJSyurMNo.1172492del
>>1172459
想起2022海老師的除夕夜鐵拳,一發入魂帶走600多頭蛾畜
能參加除夕聚會不會是小兵是軍官吧 這十幾萬鎂彈藥錢超級值啊w真的是贏麻了ww
無名23/02/27(一)13:04:43 ID:.LxT/TLwNo.1172495del
>>1172487
飛行途中還要根據風力等因素調整,否則無法做到這種精準度
2023 29th of January. Ukrainians hit a railway bridge with 5 HIMARS rockets across Molochnma river near Melitopol. This disrupted supply to Russian units. Russian propagandist claims that many workers were killed and wounded.
無名23/02/28(二)01:03:08 ID:jFV5nQrkNo.1172554del
>>1172465
上面那篇文章好像就是說BM30不太準?
無名23/02/28(二)03:35:59 ID:OW8SjMskNo.1172561del
>>1172465

就是這種也有BM30而且帳面上射更遠的心態 才讓俄文群組/牆內在M142進場前後充滿了叫囂海馬士吹這麼厲害結果打出什麼了的翻車FLAG

(在那之後自然就是我還以為已經打到莫斯科了的翻版 這麼厲害怎麼戰線還是長這樣這類小物臭台詞)
無名23/03/04(六)17:51:37 ID:5vMYMIHsNo.1173082del
"Fire!" (开火!)
"On the waaay!" (在途中!)

https://newtalk.tw/news/view/2023-03-03/860071

(影)
戰場直擊!
豹2坦克上戰場屢建奇功
被命中俄坦克瞬間解體

2023/03/03

於第一段影片中,一隊俄羅斯步兵戰車的車隊遭到烏克蘭第 53 機械化旅的坦克砲擊,由於身處在空曠的郊外,因此片段中大部分的俄軍戰車都被摧毀,更有被精準命中的戰車於迅間解體。

而在第二段影片中,某台大砲被徹底摧毀,且冒起大火與濃煙,最終被爆炸吞噬。
據報是俄羅斯部署在頓內茨克地區的自走炮,用以襲擊當地的民居。
於近日終遭到烏軍第 72 機械化旅的摧毀,而相似的自走炮此前已 5 次被摧毀。
無名23/03/04(六)17:57:20 ID:Btg2YmzsNo.1173085del
>>1173082
你不知道也有不少M109A5被炸掉嗎
無名23/03/04(六)22:41:46 ID:tXJkk/aoNo.1173107del
>>1172465
BM-30的300公釐口徑和90公里射程,帳面數字不錯看
不過得一發一發塞入發射管,蠻花時間的
早年就標榜多管火箭自帶無人機(9m534 rocket)觀測,不知效果怎麼樣?
無名23/03/04(六)23:08:38 ID:pRVeFYrcNo.1173109del
>>1173085
喔,出處
無名23/03/04(六)23:53:40 ID:qtgf/OEsNo.1173111del
>>1173109
oryx上確認被炸的就最少9台了
無名23/03/05(日)00:38:10 ID:2hIURu5INo.1173113del
>>1173111
因為沒有那麽珍貴,放在前線肯定會有損失。
烏克蘭大概收到56臺外加18臺承諾中的M109,算上螃蟹/AS-90之類其他收到的155MM/152MM履帶式自走炮大概也有超過200臺,他們本身賬面上還有超過500臺2S3 Akatsiya
M109A2/A3:22架A3GN(由挪威捐贈)
M109A2/A5:6個單位,以前由拉脫維亞擁有
M109A4:28個單位,以前由比利時擁有,由英國購買,翻新和捐贈。
M109A6:18個(美國承諾)


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