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無題無名23/09/13(三)21:12:44 ID:Hw0vRP9QNo.1201666del
這樣是繼續修理好還是廢了比較快
無名23/09/13(三)21:23:15 ID:Imdguxn6No.1201667del
>>1201666
主桅都燒塌掉
登陸艦很便宜,都過火了還是重新做比較划算
無名23/09/13(三)21:52:13 ID:5.WnmW2kNo.1201680del
>>1201667
當事國好像打算修。我猜他們也有死靈術。
https://big5.sputniknews.cn/20230913/1053337941.html
無名23/09/13(三)22:04:57 ID:PeN5M1VoNo.1201687del
潛艇 ... ?

https://www.chinatimes.com/amp/realtimenews/20230913004399-260408

烏克蘭對黑海艦隊軍港發動飽和攻擊
俄羅斯多艘艦艇受損

2023/09/13

受損的是南奧爾忠尼啟則修船廠(S. Ordzhonikidze Ship Repair),主要設備遭到損壞。
「我們現在可以確認,一艘大型登陸艇和一艘潛艇已受損。」
無名23/09/13(三)22:34:44 ID:KCDfe726No.1201700del
>>1201687
如果真的傷了一艘潛艦就虧大了
無名23/09/13(三)23:13:21 ID:5.WnmW2kNo.1201709del
>>1201700
沒啥損失,記得黑海艦隊基洛級有7台。
無名23/09/13(三)23:14:30 ID:Hw0vRP9QNo.1201710del
>>1201709
有一台關在門外
無名23/09/14(四)00:40:25 ID:XO/c6qe6No.1201732del
>>1201709
那艘基洛級服役不到十年,還可以打口徑飛彈
怎麼算也值三億美金
無名23/09/14(四)00:42:54 ID:GAadfEk.No.1201734del
>>1201710
哪一艘啊?
無名23/09/14(四)04:39:32 ID:ADtpSlwANo.1201751del
用膠帶跟WD40可以糊一糊
無名23/09/14(四)09:54:14 ID:d/DnzKIwNo.1201793del
>>1201751
梗圖又可以拿來用了
無名23/09/14(四)10:48:03 ID:okF/6zrANo.1201806del
>>1201732
謝謝資訊,原來壞的是比較新的基洛級啊... 那損失的確大了點。

>>1201751
謝謝圖。那台登陸艦還能修嗎? 令人懷疑。
無名23/09/14(四)11:47:51 ID:bsIuQIlUNo.1201817del
潛艇也被砸一個大洞
就算補好也殘廢
而且要先保證明後年克里米亞還在自己手上
無名23/09/14(四)12:06:20 ID:6Nrg5JyMNo.1201819del
>>1201732
這樣一來,黑海上就減少一個飛彈發射平台了。
無名23/09/14(四)12:48:55 ID:8N.lqhfENo.1201823del
>>1201817
這個若打算修補回去
時程大概也要用年來算吧

可能戰爭結束前都要趴在乾塢了
無名23/09/14(四)12:59:02 ID:okF/6zrANo.1201825del
名將斯田豐,目前是被起訴的待罪之身。最近他的羈押期又被延長了3個月到12月:
https://kyivindependent.com/moscow-court-extends-russian-warlord-girkins-arrest-until-december/
無名23/09/14(四)13:02:42 ID:okF/6zrANo.1201827del
繼先前恐嚇摩爾多瓦不要再繼續支持烏克蘭,與恐嚇亞美尼亞不要與俄羅斯作對,札哈蘿娃最新的力作出來啦!

他說,愛沙尼亞如果打算繼續沒收在愛沙尼亞的俄國財產並轉移給烏克蘭的話,俄國將會有強烈打到痛處的報復!
https://tass.com/politics/1674197?utm_source=twitter.com&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=smm_social_share
無名23/09/14(四)13:21:07 ID:YbSflNL.No.1201829del
>>1201827
特殊軍事行動續集!(敲碗
無名23/09/14(四)13:48:20 ID:8N.lqhfENo.1201831del
>>1201732
目前看來中招的是Kilo 636.3
舷號B-237 頓河畔羅斯托夫號
無名23/09/14(四)16:06:33 ID:UaOeHK0kNo.1201844del
無名23/09/14(四)17:17:36 ID:okF/6zrANo.1201851del
>>1201829
啊呀,如果普京敢的話,我會鼓掌稱頌他老人家。XD

先猜俄國可能的兩個動作: 斷愛沙尼亞的電(有部分電力好像是跟俄羅斯買的),還有派軍靠近邊境演習。

不過其實拉脫維亞更值得特殊軍事行動,其政府修改了移民法,針對該國14歲~75歲持有俄國國籍的居民,要求其必須在期限內通過簡單等級的拉脫維亞語考試,通過者才能在拉脫維亞居住。無法通過者,亦可以放棄俄國國籍替代。但考不過,又不放棄,就會被驅逐回母國。
無名23/09/14(四)18:20:47 ID:BhOdi1ikNo.1201854del
>>1201687

https://hk.on.cc/hk/bkn/cnt/intnews/20230914/mobile/bkn-20230914080002864-0914_00992_001.html

突襲俄軍艦艇得手
烏克蘭使用英製巡航導彈

2023/09/14

受損艦艇分別是蟾蜍級大型登陸艦明斯克號、基洛級柴電動力潛艇頓河畔羅斯托夫號,它們事前停放在旱塢修理。
無名23/09/14(四)20:01:26 ID:okF/6zrANo.1201864del
札哈蘿娃說,俄羅斯在烏克蘭的一切行動,都得到國際法的支持。包含殺進烏克蘭,與公投併吞新領土。一切合法,謝謝指教。XD
https://ukraina.ru/20230911/1049315691.html
無名23/09/14(四)20:16:56 ID:Tzp/X1JINo.1201866del
>>1201829
>>1201851
給我住手啊!
忘記EX變態的位置在哪裡了嗎?
無名23/09/14(四)20:24:05 ID:okF/6zrANo.1201869del
>>1201866
咦,不是在摩爾多瓦嗎?
無名23/09/14(四)20:29:11 ID:okF/6zrANo.1201871del
CNN報導了烏克蘭一家公司為軍方打造的強效兵器-誘餌。這家公司不製造武器,但盡力在打造引誘俄軍攻擊的誘餌武器。使用金屬打造出各種誘餌: M777,D-20,雷達等。該公司還會從軍方得到回饋,盡量生產會被盯上的產品。

True to life but without the price tag: The decoy weapons Ukraine wants Russia to destroy
https://edition.cnn.com/2023/09/11/world/ukraine-russia-decoy-weapons-intl/index.html
無名23/09/14(四)20:30:12 ID:hb33Mt5ANo.1201872del
>>1201844
又出現了新種的小精靈嗎wwwww
無名23/09/14(四)20:31:19 ID:TtAONFFkNo.1201874del
>>1201869
在聶斯特河沿岸
無名23/09/14(四)20:47:31 ID:okF/6zrANo.1201877del
>>1201874
那就別擔心了。那邊只有等烏克蘭這邊打得差不多才有可能開打。
無名23/09/14(四)21:22:00 ID:BhOdi1ikNo.1201880del
>>1201709

(参考)

黑海舰队 2023.

https://www.kchf.ru/eng/ship/today.htm

Black Sea Fleet 2023
All Surface Combatants and Submarines
無名23/09/15(五)10:08:03 ID:K8BUYIpUNo.1201914del
>>1201793

https://jackryan.fandom.com/wiki/Jeffrey_Pelt

Dr. Jeffrey Pelt is a character that appears in The Hunt for Red October novel and the film of the same name.
In 1984, he was the National Security Advisor to the President of the United States.
無名23/09/15(五)10:09:26 ID:UWpWhAPsNo.1201915del
>>1201874
最近摩爾多瓦驅逐了當地的衛星通訊社分社長。札哈蘿娃說,俄國必有回應:
https://big5.sputniknews.cn/20230913/1053338746.html

個人是蠻希望俄國的回應是派德左的俄軍直接殺向摩爾多瓦。XD
無名23/09/15(五)10:27:49 ID:UWpWhAPsNo.1201917del
最近中國有幾個謠言一直在流傳,其中之一就是中國國防部長李尚福可能遭整肅,只因為他老人家兩周多未露面。(除了被抓,有可能單純生病而已吧)

路透社:李尚福上周突然取消與越南國防領導人會晤
https://www.rfi.fr/tw/%E4%B8%AD%E5%9C%8B/20230914-%E8%B7%AF%E9%80%8F%E7%A4%BE-%E6%9D%8E%E5%B0%9A%E7%A6%8F%E4%B8%8A%E5%91%A8%E7%AA%81%E7%84%B6%E5%8F%96%E6%B6%88%E8%88%87%E8%B6%8A%E5%8D%97%E5%9C%8B%E9%98%B2%E9%A0%98%E5%B0%8E%E4%BA%BA%E6%9C%83%E6%99%A4
無名23/09/15(五)11:28:27 ID:qqa6KGD2No.1201919del
>>1201917
不如每五分鐘說一次習近平遭暗殺好了
畢竟已經五分鐘沒露面,肯定死了
無名23/09/15(五)11:34:57 ID:UWpWhAPsNo.1201920del
>>1201919
就說是謠言嘛。

但是有秦剛的前例,說真的我也不敢單純以謠言視之。
無名23/09/15(五)11:47:07 ID:e2XJ1g4sNo.1201921del
>>1201920
但是這麽多官員被傳失蹤最後被免職的也只有秦剛
習近平過去的手法是直接雙開昭告天下
然後把人丟進監獄等認罪
認罪之後再請央視拍認罪影片人民日報再寫社論
無名23/09/15(五)11:53:41 ID:UWpWhAPsNo.1201922del
>>1201921
>>但是這麽多官員被傳失蹤最後被免職的也只有秦剛
你忘了最近的火箭軍司令與副司令。XD
無名23/09/15(五)13:11:47 ID:UWpWhAPsNo.1201927del
中國的活寶代表團們,先前參觀了克里米亞的里瓦幾亞宮,此地是最後一任沙皇尼古拉二世的夏宮,也是大名鼎鼎的雅爾達會議舉辦地點,在此決定了蘇聯將會加入對日作戰。然後偉大的戰地玫瑰,在此彈了一曲。
https://zmaps.ru/ukraina-ru/delegatsija-kitajskih-blogerov/

某位大V形容此畫面: "王大歌手在被革命份子全家槍決的尼古拉二世畫像下,用著日本製的河合鋼琴,又彈了一首喀秋莎(應該是?)"。這畫面太妙啊。XD

值得注意的是,邀約他們的媒體是一家線上新聞Ukraine.ru,隸屬於官煤今日俄羅斯。然後新聞稿中還出現了"中國人至今仍緬懷解放東北的蘇聯戰士"一語。我猜這大概是Ukraine.ru自己加的註解。但在部分中文來源中,已經把這段話當成王大歌手說的開始筆誅口伐了。XD

我是覺得大概是媒體自己加的。因為俄國駐中大使館,也說過中國人緬懷蘇聯士兵的鬼話。蘇聯士兵進東北姦淫擄掠燒殺搶劫,見鬼了中國人才會緬懷你們啦:
https://beijing.mid.ru/ru/news/v_kitae_v_den_pobedy_nad_militaristskoy_yaponiey_i_okonchaniya_vtoroy_mirovoy_voyny_pochtili_pamyat_/
無名23/09/15(五)13:31:26 ID:UWpWhAPsNo.1201932del
烏克蘭國家交響樂團戰火中訪台
https://www.cna.com.tw/news/ahel/202309090167.aspx

法國前總統薩科齊:烏克蘭加入北約將不會帶來和平,這是對俄羅斯的一種挑釁
(*ps: 2008年北約峰會上,就是他和梅克爾大媽反對讓烏克蘭喬治亞入北約)
https://big5.sputniknews.cn/20230913/1053342543.html
無名23/09/15(五)14:01:26 ID:NL2sSopQNo.1201934del
>>1201932
>法國前總統薩科齊:烏克蘭加入北約將不會帶來和平,這是對俄羅斯的一種挑釁
>(*ps: 2008年北約峰會上,就是他和梅克爾大媽反對讓烏克蘭喬治亞入北約)
以2008年當時的時空環境 說這話也還算有點道理吧
當時俄國與西方交好
結果你把它以前的兄弟之邦納入防堵它的敵對陣營裡 看起來就像挖人牆腳啊

當然經過去年俄國主動開戰 大家都知道你沒有要挖它牆腳 它還是會找理由打你 管你兄弟之邦說打就打之後
對其侵略預先做準備 且讓想站隊的自行選擇陣營一事才顯得比較順理成章
(俄國這波智障操作反而把一堆本來希望長期保持中立的國家都逼往北約去了...到底是動兵前都沒在計算外交副作用 還是國內政局有啥不向外動兵就排解不了的壓力?)
無名23/09/15(五)14:09:36 ID:mn9O/z/INo.1201936del
>>1201666
https://reddit.com/r/UkraineWarVideoReport/s/7pcomkJzgn

明斯克號登陸艦滅火中的影片
燒得差不多在收拾殘局
無名23/09/15(五)14:47:50 ID:JDjnGTQsNo.1201941del
>>1201932
In an interview with Le Figaro in August 2023, Sarkozy said that Ukraine should remain "neutral" and not join NATO or the EU; that France and Russia "need each other"; and that Macron should "renew dialogue" with Putin. In the same interview, Sarkozy called for Ukraine to accept the Russian occupation of Crimea as well as other contested territory. Critics have reproved his comments as "shameful" and "shocking", and others have accused Sarkozy of being a "Kremlin influencer". Sarkozy has also received support from others for his position, arguing that it presents a "diplomatic way out" of the war.

Sarkozy "should be considered a Russian influencer," said Julien Bayou, a senior Green Party MP, telling broadcaster LCI the interview was "lunatic" and "shocking".

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Bayou recalled an ongoing investigation into Sarkozy's lucrative ties to a Russian insurance company on suspicion of influence peddling and concealing crimes.

Sarkozy's former intelligence advisor Jerome Poirot told LCI that the ex-president's words were "shameful".

"He has no perspective on what's happened or on what he did" during his 2007-2012 term, Poirot said, recalling that Sarkozy was one of the key voices against Georgia and Ukraine joining NATO in 2008 -- which did not prevent Russia's later invasions of both countries.

"What were President Sarkozy's red lines? What was his vision for France's security? Just giving in to whatever Vladimir Putin wanted?" he asked.

(AFP)
無名23/09/15(五)14:49:43 ID:JDjnGTQsNo.1201942del
>>1201932
Nicolas Sarkozy faces 'influence peddling' probe over €3m Russian insurance 'consultancy' contract
The former French president is already involved in several separate corruption cases
By Henry Samuel
15 January 2021 • 12:11pm

Former French president Nicolas Sarkozy has been placed under preliminary investigation for "influence peddling" over a €3 million (£2.7m) contract with a Russian insurance company, French prosecutors confirmed on Friday.

The probe by the national financial prosecutor, PNF, is in relation to a contract the 65-year old Right-winger signed with Russian group Reso-Garaantia.

He is under preliminary investigation for "influence peddling and concealing a crime or misdemeanour". Under French law, this means judges suspect potential wrongdoing but have insufficient evidence to press charges.

According to investigative website Mediapart, which revealed the probe, anti-corruption investigators started working on this case last summer after France's fraud unit Tracfin expressed concerns over the nature of the contract with the Russian insurance group.

According to Mediapart, Mr Sarkozy, who was French president from 2007 to 2012, received an initial payment of €500,000 early last year as part of a €3m contract.

Reso-Garaantia is owned by two Russian-Armenian brothers, Sergey and Nikolay Sarkisov, who confirmed to the website that they had paid Mr Sarkozy as a "special advisor" and "chairman of the strategic council committee to the management board".

French prosecutors did not provide details regarding their suspicions regarding the contract.
無名23/09/15(五)14:51:40 ID:JDjnGTQsNo.1201943del
>>1201932
Reports of the new probe came as Mr Sarkozy faces a string of legal woes.

A verdict is due on March 1 in his landmark corruption trial in which prosecutors have called for a sentence of four years, two in prison, on suspicion of seeking to bribe a judge with a plum retirement job in exchange for inside information on an inquiry into his campaign finances.

He is also currently being investigated over allegations he accepted €50m from former Libyan dictator Muammar Gaddafi to illicitly fund his 2007 election and is also accused of fraudulently overspending on his failed 2012 reelection bid.

Mr Sarkozy insisted at a hearing in his graft trial last December that he "never committed the slightest act of corruption" and vowed to go "all the way" to clear his name.

This is the second time the conservative ex-leader has hit the headlines this week.

On Wednesday, investigative weekly Le Canard Enchaîné revealed this his ex-wife Cecilia was paid as a parliamentary assistant in 2002 and alleged that there was no evidence she did any work to justify a €3,100 salary for a part-time job in 2002 when he was interior minister.

"Not an article, no report, not one of the many books devoted to the former first lady mentions her work as a parliamentary assistant," the weekly wrote.

It quoted Cecilia telling a TV interviewer in 2002: "I am not paid, the work I do with my husband is voluntary."

Mr Sarkozy’s entourage denied any wrongdoing, confirming the existing of the contract and telling RTL that it had lasted “nine months until March 2003”, allowing Cecilia to “keep track of dossiers” in the constituency.
無名23/09/15(五)16:00:16 ID:CKGZUmjUNo.1201951del
>>1201927
XD哥成天這麼關心中國的哪個人對烏俄戰爭的意見真的很閒啊,正常中國人就是覺得這干我屁事
無名23/09/15(五)16:02:24 ID:e2XJ1g4sNo.1201953del
>>1201932
喬治亞當年是主動撕毀和俄國簽的條約
被打不值得同情
無名23/09/15(五)16:23:39 ID:UWpWhAPsNo.1201956del
>>1201934
>>以2008年當時的時空環境 說這話也還算有點道理吧
>>當時俄國與西方交好
>>結果你把它以前的兄弟之邦納入防堵它的敵對陣營裡 看起來就像挖人牆腳啊
並沒有。XD

請問一下,前華約所屬的波蘭、匈牙利、捷克、羅馬尼亞、保加利亞這些算不算兄弟之邦? 同屬前蘇聯加盟國的愛沙尼亞、拉脫維亞、立陶宛算不算兄弟之邦? 這些國家可是2003年之前就加入北約了。
無名23/09/15(五)16:26:34 ID:UWpWhAPsNo.1201959del
>>1201942
薩科齊疑似拿了俄國的錢錢,這很有名的。
無名23/09/15(五)16:35:02 ID:UWpWhAPsNo.1201961del
>>1201951
對,的確不干普通中國人的事。

要煩惱的中國人有兩種: 中國政府 和 住烏克蘭的中國人。兩者根本都是池魚之殃,倒楣極了。
無名23/09/15(五)16:50:12 ID:bsW8tj6INo.1201964del
看到的感想是多炮主義要復活了嗎
無名23/09/15(五)18:42:02 ID:UWpWhAPsNo.1201968del
>>1201951
下午無聊,逛了周先生的維基,我才發現我是不是搞錯了,其實周先生的巴庫超級硬?
https://zh.wikipedia.org/zh-tw/%E5%91%A8%E5%B0%8F%E5%B9%B3

稍早我還只知道"周帶魚"和"批評敦克爾克電影"兩個舊事件,還有這次為妻辯駁的名言:「烏方算個雞毛,老子給他一耳光!」(該篇微博已刪除)。

不料早在2017年,他就毫不畏懼法國總統馬克宏,寫了篇文章"幼稚,你以為法國帥哥總統是一個完美的情種",攻擊馬克宏靠妻子的裙帶關係上位。結果惹來環球時報和一堆人要幫他洗地。
https://china.hket.com/article/1811690/%E7%B7%A8%E9%80%A0%E9%A6%AC%E5%85%8B%E9%BE%8D%E8%A3%99%E5%B8%B6%E9%97%9C%E4%BF%82%E3%80%8C%E4%B8%8A%E4%BD%8D%E3%80%8D%20%E5%85%A7%E5%9C%B0%E7%B6%B2%E7%B4%85%E5%91%A8%E5%B0%8F%E5%B9%B3%E9%81%AD%E8%BD%9F

啊呀呀,小平兄果非池中物,絲毫不畏懼邪惡的烏克蘭納粹,願意為正義的俄羅斯發聲外。不料連法國總統馬克宏都敢得罪。XD
無名23/09/15(五)18:47:41 ID:PgCbFr6oNo.1201969del
>>1201968
北京縱容的戰狼+大粉紅
無名23/09/17(日)02:40:10 ID:PaxJRxSoNo.1202000del
>>1201932

枪支管制法只管制守法国民.

https://news.rthk.hk/rthk/ch/component/k2/1718409-20230915.htm

拜登兒子亨特被起訴三項與槍支有關的刑事控罪

2023/09/15

亨特和司法部原本達成認罪協議,以承認逃稅指控換取不起訴非法擁有槍械罪名,但法官拒絕接納協議。
當時特別檢察官表明案件很可能要進行刑事審理。

根據特拉華州聯邦法院的起訴書,亨特被指控在2018年10月購買槍支時撒謊,隱瞞自己吸食可因成癮的情況,被控在購買槍支時作出虛假聲明,以及身為吸毒人士非法擁有槍支。


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