軍武

好吧，我们用传统的方式来做。
Guns, guns.

https://jamesbond.fandom.com/wiki/HMS_Bedford

With the radar contact too weak for a missile lock, the Bedford opens fire on the fleeing craft with its 4.5 inch naval gun.

>>1202760
也不能籠統地將F-22的表現直接等同所有的"隱形機"(匿蹤機)
F-22做得到這種程度不一定代表所有的五代機RCS都小到這麼離奇
這是很常出現的思考偏誤
案例中的F-15要看是哪一種F-15
印象中有看過演習中的F-15E還是能用雷達看到F-22的描述
只是掃其他飛機都在百公里外就標定　F-22是已經到了十幾二十公里這麼近才突然閃現　信號還斷斷續續的　對非五代機的駕駛員而言十分驚悚
如果雷達功率和精度較高的F-15E都這樣　較舊的F-15A或C直到目視距離內才看到對方並不奇怪
需考量F-22駕駛技巧高竿始終用自己RCS最小的正面接敵　方有這等表現　但它不是全向都如此不可探測　紅旗中也是有被雷達更弱的F-16從側腹突襲得手的事蹟
另外　有無AWACS或其他戰管介入也是需要考量的點之一：戰機的機鼻雷達不夠力　可以讓更強的雷達來找（F-22：所以有時我開場就找AWACS的麻煩　嘿嘿）

>>1202774
>紅旗中也是有被雷達更弱的F-16從側腹突襲得手的事蹟
通常是編隊或多股勢力亂戰
讓潛行的F-22顧此失彼
或先前已經被判定擊落從演習空域中被點掉的F-16跑到演習區以外待機重生再重返戰場
然後因為入場時間地點隨機導致不可能全向都完美無缺的F-22猝不及防

>>1202760
AIM-120也是可以靠其他抓得到的單位傳信號來導引的
自己的尋標頭也一直有在精進

>>1202760
2003年那時的AIM-120尋標頭技術距今已有20年的巨大差異
F-22的匿蹤能力自定型後並沒有大幅飛躍
但AIM-120進步到C7以及現在的D之後，跟千禧年前後的版本相比會有相當程度的進步

不過，F-22依然是個很難鎖住也很會脫逃的麻煩對手就是了

>>1202774
會不會看到半主動雷達飛彈復辟啊
到時候變成AWACS機身貼滿陣列可以多目標照射這樣

>>1202811
>F-22的匿蹤能力自定型後並沒有大幅飛躍
因為它已經是業界標竿了啊~

縮減RCS這事就跟奈米製程類似
加錢堆料往外無限膨脹很容易，但是往內無限縮小很困難
小到一個程度想再內縮，那個難度是等比級數在跳的
獲得的效益卻不一定很顯著
加上F-22是各項能力綜合起來很強大，不是單純巴著低RCS造就的匿踪性這項在吃飯
想在已經很貴的它身上再花錢，自然也是投資其他增益較明顯的項目

超大雷達的B-1R要復活了嗎？
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFsYcK5lWrQ

>>1202774
>F-22駕駛技巧高竿始終用自己RCS最小的正面接敵
想到有位F-22飛官的訪談有提到他會刻意轉到比較好被探測到的角度釣對面開雷達後再轉回低探測的角度給對面一個驚喜
>JB also provides some interesting insight into how the F-22 would be used to maximize its stealth advantage in aerial combat: "With stealth, we’re playing a little bit of a cat-and-mouse game. I know where these [radar] spikes are, and I may want to show you that I’m over here — Hey! Now, what are you doing? Turning on your radars, turning on your missiles, and the whole time you’re doing that I’m figuring out where you are. I turn a little bit. I’ve gone invisible, you can’t shoot me. And you might think I want to send a little hate your way, poke out your eyes … so it’s all a cat-and-mouse game.”

>>1202877
跟另一串那個代號"冰芒果"的大黃蜂飛官一樣
會在對方於交手初期試圖獲取SA的階段做些讓對方誤判自己狀態的操作
再伺機給對手出其不意的一擊

會玩這種戰術心理的基本就是脫離菜鳥煉成精了

>>1202823
當時200X年探索頻道還吹噓說他的維護成本只有F-15的1/5

>>1203060
造價和維護成本是兩回事

預警機的雷達可以引導雷達導引飛彈嗎？

附圖為E-2B打AIM-9

>>1202760
雷達很難抓到的叫"匿蹤"

我圖中這種才叫做"隱形"

>>1203103

红茶军的場合: 1982年Operation Corporate, Nimrod MR.2P携带了AIM-9空空味噌.

https://www.baesystems.com/en/heritage/hawker-siddeley-nimrod

Hawker Siddeley Nimrod

HS Nimrod MR2P XV254 photographed in January 1983 with underwing Sidewinder fit.

The Falklands War resulted in the provision of in-flight refuelling equipment and so am HS801 was quickly adapted as the HS801 Nimrod MR2P.
The aircraft was also equipped with the ability to carry the AIM-9 Sidewinder missile for self-defence.
Further equipment changes were introduced to support operations in the Gulf theatre.

>>1203159

因此, Nimrod声称是世界上最大的喷气战斗机.

https://collections.rafmuseum.org.uk/collection/object/object-201307/

Nimrod Sidewinder Sticker

During the Falklands Conflict, Nimrod maritime patrol aircraft were fitted with Sidewinder air-to-air missiles to discourage Argentine reconnaissance aircraft from spying on the UK Task Force.

首先發射AIM120的前提一般都是已經鎖定了
丟出去後AIM120會先以慣性導引方式飛到目標附近
靠近目標都一定程度後尋標頭會啟動多種模式
找熱源找電波或開雷達主動搜尋 夠近就一切好說

>>1202760

无论如何.
公式HP：

https://nationalgeographicbackissues.com/product/national-geographic-december-2003/

National Geographic
December 2003

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>>1203103
CEC ?
http://www.mdc.idv.tw/mdc/navy/usanavy/E-cec.htm